It's No Fluke – An Original Podcast

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Jenny Hoyos, Jordan Howlett AKA ‘Jordan The Stallion,’ Misha Brown, Jacklyn Dallas, Emma Lehman, Kyra Knox, Ziad Ahmed, Shira Lazar, Lia Haberman, Jerry Won, and brands like Liquid Death, Civilian, LTK, Boobie, and McKinney all have one thing in common – It’s No Fluke they found success.

Each week, we unpack the highs, lows, and untold stories of culture and creativity with top creators, brands, and thought leaders.

New episodes drop every Tuesday and Thursday. Stay tuned!

Got feedback or a guest idea? Reach out via email, LinkedIn or Instagram.

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About the Host

A Shorty Award winner and Real Time Academy member, Jeff Barrett works with major influencers and brands like Adobe, Experian, Oracle, FIS and more on communications and influencer strategy. He spent three years traveling to almost every state in the country writing about startup ecosystems for Inc and Entrepreneur. After years of talking for a living, he's ready to listen and amplify the voices of amazing people, stories and ideas. 

Latest Episodes

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E179 Monica Khan: The Power of Long-Form Content

Monica Khan is a creator economy multi-hyphenate with 15+ years of experience helping creators build sustainable, revenue-driven businesses. As Partner and Head of Digital at Strand Entertainment, she leads creator management, representing top digital-first talent through multi-platform growth and strategic partnerships.

Earlier in her career, Monica worked directly with top creators and media companies at YouTube, helping grow channels that would go on to become some of the platform’s most popular today. At Meta, she led the product marketing team to launch monetization features for Facebook Groups. Most recently, she worked with some of the world’s biggest creators while founding and scaling the Spotter Creator Community, establishing the company as a trusted partner for creator knowledge and support.

Monica is also the co-founder of the Bay Area Creator Economy, fostering community among creators and industry leaders. Her mission is to empower creators to own their growth, expand their impact, and build lasting businesses on their own terms.


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E178 Robyn Nissim: Bringing The C-Suite Up To Speed

Robyn Nissim began her career on the agency side of advertising, launching social channels for global brands like Michelin and Nissan. After five years in the Ad World and winning a Webby Award, she realized she could make waves on social platforms using zero brand dollars, which led her to launch an independent freelancing business.


During this time, Robyn built out Ulta Beauty's entire influencer marketing program, leading strategy and execution for their team. She went on to build and manage some of the largest social communities in the world, in-house on the brand side, taking Anastasia of Beverly Hills to its peak (24M Followers on Instagram) and building out Alo Yoga's entire social footprint, sprouting to +4M in less than one year.


After driving massive results at both brands and receiving acknowledgments from Instagram, Robyn founded Social Proof Agency (SPA) and began facilitating training programs designed to help individuals, teams, and organizations adopt a social-first mindset. Through interactive workshops and hands-on learning, SPA equips teams with the knowledge and tools to execute Social Media and Influencer Marketing strategies in-house.


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E177 Rachel Catanach: Anchors in an Uncertain Environment

Rachel Catanach is Senior Partner and General Manager of FleishmanHillard’s New York operations, responsible for people development, cultivating existing client relationships, and securing new business.  She has held this position since November 2021.  She also spearheads the firm’s Global Executive Advisory initiative. 

A New Zealand native, Rachel started her communications career as a business journalist and at in-house public relations positions before stints at Sweeney Vesty Limited in New Zealand, and then Waggener Edstrom, as General Manager of their Hong Kong operations.   

In July 2007, she joined FleishmanHillard Hong Kong as General Manager and in 2016 was promoted to President of FleishmanHillard’s Greater China operations, responsible for growing the firm’s presence and reputation in this highly dynamic market. 

Rachel is a strong advocate for the PR industry and a regular commentator on industry issues and trends.   She has presented at Summer Davos in Dalian, moderated on the main stage at the Cannes Festival of Creativity, and was a key writer and contributor to The Page Society’s most recent thought leadership report, Beyond Communication: CCO Leadership in Navigating New Complexity.  She has received many awards and in 2024 was recognized by PR Week as a Woman of Distinction.

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E176 Carolyn Pollock: Investing in Brand Messaging to Reduce Lower Funnel Costs

Carolyn Pollock is a visionary brand builder who has transformed some of the most iconic brands in North American retail. As Chief Marketing Officer at Tailored Brands (parent company of Men’s Wearhouse and Jos. A. Bank), Carolyn led a sweeping brand and creative relaunch, reshaping customer perceptions and driving measurable gains in awareness, consideration, and loyalty.

Known for her bold approach to social and influencer marketing, she helped Tailored Brands claim 26% of all TikTok impressions in men’s apparel and increased social ROAS by 23%, all while leading a 25% improvement in overall marketing ROI. She combines creative instinct with data-driven execution—whether it’s building campaigns that spark conversation or scaling performance strategies that deliver growth.

Carolyn previously served as Managing Partner at RevelOne, and held brand leadership roles at eBay, Thumbtack, and Timbuk2. She’s a frequent advisor to industry leaders like Google and Salesforce, and was recently named to Adweek’s AI Trailblazers Power 100.


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E175 David Shelley: Striking the balance between intuition and data

David Shelley is Chief Executive Officer of the Hachette Book Group, which is home to seven publishing divisions – Basic Books Group; Grand Central Publishing; Hachette Audio; Little, Brown and Company; Little, Brown Books for Young Readers; Orbit; and Workman Running Press Group. He also serves as CEO of Hachette UK, the second largest UK publisher, with 12 autonomous divisions and over 50 imprints.  

During his tenure, he published bestselling authors including Mitch Albom, Mark Billingham, Patricia Cornwell, Carl Hiaasen, Dennis Lehane, Val McDermid, and J.K Rowling. 

In 2015, he was named CEO of Orion and Little, Brown, and later appointed Group CEO of Hachette UK in 2018. In 2024, Lagardère tapped David to also oversee Hachette Book Group in the US as part of a new English-language management structure. He has since transformed the New York-based company, ushering in new imprints, high-profile hires, and boosting revenue and profit – HBG sales were up 7% over 2023—the biggest jump posted by any of the groups in Lagardère’s publishing business.  

David’s leadership is defined by the company’s four strategic business pillars: Understanding Consumers, Changing the Story, Owner Mentality and Growth Mindset. He fosters open communication with the 3,500 employees he leads across

 both sides of the Atlantic, cultivating a sense of community while aligning all business teams. David is an Officer and past President of the Publishers Association, a trustee of The Reading Agency, and a director of Tate Enterprises.

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E174 Jamie McLaughlin: Skills-Based Hiring & Other Talent Trends

Jamie McLaughlin is the Founder and CEO of Monday Talent. He is regarded as an authority in Marketing, Creative and Communications recruitment and search, successfully working in the industry for nearly 20 years, across 5 continents and partnering with the world’s most regarded brands.

Jamie has an unrivaled global network and has created formidable tactical partnerships with some of the most high-profile organizations. He sits on the boards of the Institute for Public Relations, USC Annenberg School of Communication, creative agency ConCreates, influencer marketing firm Social Studies - as well as advising The Marketing Academy and Celtic Football Club

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E173 Maria Rodriguez: Every Company is a Media Company

Maria A. Rodriguez is the VP of Marketing and Communications at Open Influence, a global creator marketing agency that has shaped the industry since 2013. With over 13 years of experience spanning journalism, digital media, and strategic communications, her career has been built at the intersection of media, culture, and technology.

She holds a Master’s degree in Strategic Public Relations from USC, where she began her research on the global creator economy. Since joining Open Influence in 2017, Maria has led brand, content, and communications efforts—positioning the agency as a trusted partner to Fortune 500 brands and a thought leader in creator marketing. She is passionate about helping modern marketers harness the creativity of creators to build authentic, engaged brand communities.


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E172 Barbara Duffek: Transparent Opportunism & How to Measure Authenticity

Barbara Duffek is an Assistant Professor of Marketing at Georgia State University, J. Mack Robinson College of Business. Barbara holds a PhD from Imperial College London.

In her research, she explores the cooperation between different stakeholders in influencer marketing, with the goal of better understanding how influencers can be effectively leveraged. She also explores the use of AI in consumer behavior, including how it impacts pro-social behavior, interaction with influencers and virtual influencers and the metaverse.

Barbara's research has been published at leading marketing journals, including the Journal of Marketing, the Journal of International Marketing, and AMS Review. She teaches Generative AI Applications in Marketing to undergraduate students, and Customer Relationship Management to graduate students at Georgia State University

She has been invited as an expert speaker at various industry and academic events to discuss how AI is shaping the future of marketing


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E171 James Heath: Why Creator Trust is 25% Higher in the Hispanic Community


James Heath is the VP of Creator Marketing at TelevisaUnivision, boasting 8 years of experience in the creator economy. With a career spanning various roles in growth strategy, audience development and talent management, James has navigated every creator era, from MCN to TikTok house.

In his current role, he has reshaped TelevisaUnivision’s creator capability by launching a new model for brand partners that integrates U.S. Hispanic creators into Latin culture’s biggest moments across music, sports and more, executing campaigns for 40+ blue-chip brand partners. James is at the forefront of developing innovative practices in the ever-evolving creator marketing landscape.


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E170 Creators Corp: Why UGC and Gaming are The Future of Brand Activations

Anne-Margot Rodde, Founder & CEO, Creators Corp.

For nearly two decades, Anne-Margot Rodde has been a pioneering force in video games, digital media, and the metaverse, holding strategic roles at leading agencies and driving high-profile projects for brands like Microsoft Xbox and PlayStation. Margot launched her first gaming venture with experiential agency WePlay, serving clients such as EA, Riot Games, Nexon, Epic Games, and IGN. After the pandemic opened new doors, she transitioned from the agency world to launch Creators Corp., an award-winning Fortnite Creative studio at the intersection of the creator economy and the metaverse. Creators Corp. specializes in designing original games that inspire and engage global audiences, partnering with IP holders and content creators across entertainment and gaming, while thoughtfully integrating brands where it adds value.


Jake Laumann, Data Analyst at Creators Corp. 

As a former esports leader at Major League Baseball and video game expert, Jake Laumann holds the position of data analyst at Creators Corp., where he supports the team with gameplay optimization and on-platform marketing. 


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